tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17078165.post6201240564260060618..comments2023-11-02T10:35:00.867-05:00Comments on Phyllis Renée: how bad do you want it?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17078165.post-82865236084916700192008-08-12T11:20:00.000-05:002008-08-12T11:20:00.000-05:00Des, that's exactly what I mean. Sometimes the pra...Des, that's exactly what I mean. Sometimes the prayer that's actually necessary is "God, change <I>my</I> heart."Phyllis Renéehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07091511889201839807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17078165.post-88546668598874044452008-08-12T11:07:00.000-05:002008-08-12T11:07:00.000-05:00Thanks for sharing...It is wonderful that when we ...Thanks for sharing...<BR/><BR/>It is wonderful that when we listen...really listen...God will talk to us!Bogarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03239349739202059474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17078165.post-70566246830449593542008-08-12T10:20:00.000-05:002008-08-12T10:20:00.000-05:00Yeah, I don't think it really matters to God wheth...Yeah, I don't think it really matters to God whether or not the person I'm praying for <I>wants</I> whatever the thing is that I'm praying for them. I mean, I pray all the time for my kids' character, and for their relationships to correspond with godliness in their lives. And not all of them are down with the whole 'godly character' thing; and some of them have (or have had) relationships that aren't (weren't) helping them on their way to Heaven. And I don't feel bad about praying for those aspects of their lives to change.<BR/><BR/>And besides, God does stuff in MY life all the time that, were I given my druthers, I'd just as soon do without. It seems to me that God is always interested in forming godly character in us, whether we're terribly interested in it at the time, or not. So I don't have a particular problem with praying for someone to change, in and of itself.<BR/><BR/>The real deep wisdom that I perceive in this post is the humility and understanding that God doing His work in my spouse might entail some cost to me, and that my duty is to love them, whether the desired change ever happens, or not. . .Desmond Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829959101276150279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17078165.post-65775622335134926412008-08-12T09:05:00.000-05:002008-08-12T09:05:00.000-05:00It's not so much whether or not we can pray for so...It's not so much whether or not we can pray for something we want for someone else -- whether or not that prayer will be answered. It's more about aligning ourselves with what God wants for that person. It's surrendering our will to His. And then, even then, their own will sometimes gets in the way.Phyllis Renéehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07091511889201839807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17078165.post-67835052239271922552008-08-11T20:59:00.000-05:002008-08-11T20:59:00.000-05:00It's like FTN said, can you really pray for someth...It's like FTN said, can you really pray for something that YOU want for someone else? And you mknow- I often find myself praying for strength for somone to get through the situation they are in- or the strength and courage to decide what is best...<BR/><BR/>this is actually quite a tough subject for our household right now... thanks for posting a different outlook...Buttafly32681https://www.blogger.com/profile/16635230394371541503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17078165.post-8436258974583107532008-08-11T10:57:00.000-05:002008-08-11T10:57:00.000-05:00It's tough to pray intercessory prayer for someone...It's tough to pray intercessory prayer for someone, if it's something that THEY don't necessarily want. It makes sense to pray for a new job for my Dad, because he wants a new job. It makes sense to pray for peace for the family of my uncle after he died, because we all want peace.<BR/><BR/>But can we pray for things that WE want for someone else, even if they don't necessarily want it? If WE think it's best for them?<BR/><BR/>As Desmond said, I think your post is wise in how it looks at these things. They become especially tricky within a marriage.FTNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00863217400079842687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17078165.post-49987015654002410482008-08-11T09:27:00.000-05:002008-08-11T09:27:00.000-05:00This is a very wise post, Phyllis. . .This is a very wise post, Phyllis. . .Desmond Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829959101276150279noreply@blogger.com